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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:01 am 
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This is judge discussion for Echanting Cadence, Slick Competition 2011 entry, remember to vote using this rules (vote from 1 to 5)

- Presentation: graphics and sound,
- Innovation: how much game is innovative in gameplay and mechanics,
- Fun: how much game is fun,
- Theme: how much your game is in theme,
- Overall: global vote

and please reply to this topic using this template (vote from 1 to 5)

- Presentation:
- Innovation:
- Fun:
- Theme:
- Overall:

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Here game entry:

Name: Simon (Drakkheim)
Email: cadence#swiftthought.com (# == @)
Theme: Magicka!
Entry: Enchanting Cadence
Tecnology: Slick applet + web services + facebook
Notes: It's a puzzle game , 10 levels, with facebook integration.

Game link: http://www.enchantingcadence.com

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:43 pm 
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Doesn't run for me :cry:
Code:
Warning: file_get_contents(https://graph.facebook.com/oauth/access_token?client_id=XXXXXXX&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.facebook.com%2Fcadence%2F&client_secret=XXXXXXXXX&code=XXXXXXXXX) [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request in /nfs/c07/h04/mnt/108296/domains/enchantingcadence.com/html/index.php on line 21

Warning: file_get_contents(https://graph.facebook.com/me?) [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request in /nfs/c07/h04/mnt/108296/domains/enchantingcadence.com/html/index.php on line 24
Invalid query: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'LIMIT 1' at line 1 Whole query: Select * from user where fbid = LIMIT 1


edit: replaced some stuff with XXXXXXX, I'm a bit facebook paranoid :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:58 pm 
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hmm looks like facebook thinks you're not logged in or declined access to the app. :-/

happen to know your os & browser version?


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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:16 pm 
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- Presentation: 5
- Innovation: 5
- Fun: 4
- Theme: 5
- Overall: 5

works fine with windows xp 32bit sp3 and java6, a bit slow on start :(

Fun is not 5/5 because some time is difficult to figure out how to handle puzzles, maybe with a better graphics or something like draw lines for spells on first levels can help players. Good, good work with this game, very polish and well done

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:17 pm 
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Win 7, 32 bit, Firefox 4.
And per default I use https on Facebook. So it might well be some security settings. I had to agree to open my profile to the game (which I did) and switch to http (which I also did).

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:05 pm 
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@Gornova81 - yeah.. i wish i'd had another couple of weeks to put an actual tutorial on there for the first Apprentice and Acolyte levels... I had to make do with those dialog popups.
I've also got a handful of new features for ease of figuring out whats going to happen that I plan on putting in once the contest is over.

@Tommy: yeah it could well be the HTTPS and the oh so poorly documented facebook javascript API aren't cooperating. I'll poke at it with my test accounts and see if I can replicate and fix it. Sorry :-/


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- Presentation: 5/5
- Innovation: 3/5
- Fun: 3/5
- Theme: 4/5
- Overall: 4/5

Feedback:

- One of my favorites! I really love puzzle games!
- Even though I tried hard could not get 3 stars on "Radio Fryer" and "Take your time", only 2. =P
- Do I need all 30 to unlock Journeyman or are those not implemented yet?

bug report:

- Level 3 Sucessfull message shows "/ngetting" and is off the message area. (various other messages are off the box area too)
- Click hold the mouse over a level to select it plays the sound several times
- Making an infinite loop to duplicate magic bolts with mirrors and prisms eventually crashes the game.
- You can get 2 items with one click if you click on their intersection.
- It's hard to navigate back to "Apprentice" dificulty.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:22 pm 
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I could not get this to work on my mac, neither in firefox 4 nor safari. I might get a hold of a pc this weekend and rate this then.


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yup mac java applet->javascript communication is broken in safari because it treats the local cached lwjgl jar file and the website as separate domains and blocks communications, and firefox & chrome cant access the OpenGL to display it (but their communications work just fine.)

And since the comp rules were to have Vista/7 PC support I didn't worry about it until the end. If someone has a fix I'll gladly implement it but I sure haven't been able to find one.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:48 pm 
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Worked now - seems I must be logged in to Facebook before I click the link of the game.

I suck at the game but boy does it look, sound and feel good 8)

- Presentation: 10/10
- Innovation: 6/10
- Fun: 6/10
- Theme: 10/10
- Overall: 8/10

Some hint or help button would be cool that places one item after the other maybe? I got stuck pretty early but wanted to proceed :wink:

The mirror and prism puzzle idea is of course pretty old (Deflector on a Spectrum 48k...) but it's top notch presentation and a nice interpretation of the theme! Very well done!

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- Presentation: 3/5
- Innovation: 2/5
- Fun: 1/5
- Theme: 2/5
- Overall: 1.75/5
Screenshots look good. Facebook games are so annoying. I don't want give permission for my stuff for any app. But I did and everything went well. Game was quite good looking. There was a lot of content and polishing but gameplay was quite odd.
I am not sure what I have to do. But I tried and then I get frustrated and quited.
Game have nice tech and its good to see some java games at facebook also it's look ace.
With better tutorial this would be a lot better.


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- Presentation: 3
- Innovation: 3
- Fun: 2
- Theme: 5
- Overall: 3

The game looks extremely good. This puzzle game was quit hard for me at least (lol) but I am not a big puzzle person. But anyone that likes puzzle games would most likely love this game. It runs very well and I gave it a 3 overall.


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- Presentation: 4
- Innovation: 4
- Fun: 1
- Theme: 5
- Overall: 3

The menus looked very professional though the game itself wasn't very fluid. It became frustratingly difficult and I didn't want to continue.


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:14 pm 
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Thanks everyone for trying and playing EC. :) It was a very fun contest and very educational. The quality and diversitites of the entries is pretty epic.

I've posted a pseudo post-mortem on my site if anyone is interested.
http://www.swiftthought.com/2011/05/enchanting-cadence-post-launch-retrospective/

I plan on working up a simple sample project on getting applets -> javascript -> php and back and commenting the heck out of it and putting it on the wiki in the next week or two or three (got a vacation coming up :) ).


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:08 pm 
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could you provide source code?

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